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Debunking Super Hero Ben Carson’s Lies – ‘Ben Carson Falsely Claims Founding Fathers Would Have Rejected Muslim President’

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Ben Carson Says Muslim Shouldn’t Be Elected President’

Article 6 – Section 3

“…… but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States”.

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‘For Carson to assert, as he has, that the Founding Fathers would reject a Muslim, has to be seen as a complete fabrication’.

‘At the National Press Club on Friday, Ben Carson jumped back on his anti-Muslim bandwagon, claiming that the Founding Fathers would have rejected a Muslim for president’.

Go to the 42:00 mark.

‘Yes, they put Article VI, the “no religious test clause” into the Constitution, but he thinks there is some wiggle room there in between “no” and “religious test.”

Super Hero Ben Carson :

(WARNING – This is just gibberish which is proven by actual Founding Father’s quotes)

“A good understanding of the Constitution answers that question for you. Because when you look at the Article II, and we’re talking about requirements for the president, they have to be a ‘natural born citizen.’ Now why is that the case?”

“I’m sure if you had gone to the Founders and said, ‘but what about this person? They may not be a natural born citizen but you know they’ve been in America for most of their lives, and they’re a fine upstanding citizen, they served in the military, they came back they were on the police force, can’t they be the president?’… they would have said no. They said ‘We don’t even want to take the slight chance that we would put someone in that position who had different loyalties.’ That’s the answer to your question”.

Really?

Thomas Jefferson –

“[T]he proscribing any citizen as unworthy the public confidence by laying upon him an incapacity of being called to offices of trust and emolument, unless he profess or renounce this or that religious opinion, is depriving him injuriously of those privileges and advantages to which in common with his fellow-citizens he has a natural right…….”

Geroge Washington –

“a man’s religious tenets will not forfeit the protection of the Laws, nor deprive him of the right of attaining and holding the highest Offices that are known in the United States……”

From : http://www.politicususa.com/2015/10/10/ben-carson-claims-founding-fathers-rejected-muslim-president.html

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4 thoughts on “Debunking Super Hero Ben Carson’s Lies – ‘Ben Carson Falsely Claims Founding Fathers Would Have Rejected Muslim President’

  1. My wife and I watched his interview with Charlie Rose. When I asked her what she thought, her word summed up the man – “bizarre” was the word she used.

    • Dave B. on said:

      “I’m sure if you had gone to the Founders and said, ‘but what about this person? They may not be a natural born citizen but you know they’ve been in America for most of their lives, and they’re a fine upstanding citizen, they served in the military, they came back they were on the police force, can’t they be the president?’… they would have said no. They said ‘We don’t even want to take the slight chance that we would put someone in that position who had different loyalties.’ That’s the answer to your question”.”
      Actually, that question DID arise at the Constitutional Convention– and the answer they came up with was a resounding YES; at least as far as such citizens of their own generations were concerned.
      From Volume 2 of “History of the Formation of the Constitution of the United States” by George Bancroft (1889):
      “One question on the qualifications of the president was among the last to be decided. On the 22nd of August the committee of detail, fixing the requisite age of the president at thirty-five, on their own motion and for the first time required only that the president should be a citizen of the United States, and should have been an inhabitant of them for twenty-one years. On the fourth of September the committee of states who were charged with all unfinished business limited the years of residence to fourteen. It was then objected that no number of years could properly prepare a foreigner for that place; but as men of other lands had spilled their blood in the cause of the United States, and had assisted at every stage of the formation of their institutions, on the 7th of September it was unanimously settled that foreign-born residents of fourteen years who should be citizens at the time of the formation of the constitution are eligible to the office of president.”
      From Justice Story’s “Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States” (1833):
      “It is indispensable, too, that the president should be a natural born citizen of the United States; or a citizen at the adoption of the constitution, and for fourteen years before his election. This permission of a naturalized citizen to become president is an exception from the great fundamental policy of all governments, to exclude foreign influence from their executive councils and duties. It was doubtless introduced (for it has now become by lapse of time merely nominal, and will soon become wholly extinct) out of respect to those distinguished revolutionary patriots, who were born in a foreign land, and yet had entitled themselves to high honours in their adopted country. A positive exclusion of them from the office would have been unjust to their merits, and painful to their sensibilities.”

      • Wow. You went to a lot and I mean a LOT of work while ignoring the actual question and in fact – YOU left it completely out of your response.

        Here’s the original question – ‘Ben Carson Says Muslim Shouldn’t Be Elected President’
        That’s NOT just his opinion but he states that someone who is Muslim, does not meet Constitutional standards.

        Everyone, well except for the bigoted knuckle draggers of the teabaggers who for 7 long years have cried that Obama wasn’t born on American soil, understands the ‘natural born citizen’.

        What you and Ben both do is avoid his original statement – that someone who is Muslim – does not Constitutionally qualify to be President.

        Here’s the part of Ben’s response that you left out – “A good understanding of the Constitution answers that question for you. Because when you look at the Article II, and we’re talking about requirements for the president, they have to be a ‘natural born citizen.’ Now why is that the case?”

        Ben is distracting from his original statement and has a L-O-N-G history that shows he has NO understanding of the Constitution.

        In the future is you put in quotes, use citations or be gone.

      • Dave B. on said:

        Geez, I thought I was adding something to the discussion. The Article VI ban on a religious test had already been mentioned in the article. Carson’s ignorance about how the Founders addressed presidential eligibility hadn’t.
        I was merely pointing out that Carson was drawing a conclusion about what the Founders would’ve done in the circumstances he described; the historical record shows that his conclusion is absolutely wrong. Why should pointing out that Carson is wrong in that particular aspect be so offensive? Good grief, isn’t it obvious the guy’s a nut? Should I have to dot every i and cross every t about HOW nutty he is? That WOULD be a “LOT of work.” I don’t think I’m up for it.
        Everything I quoted was put in quotes. I cited my sources. I did that “LOT of work” long ago– it’s no trouble repeating it.
        And yes, I left out part of what Carson said. It wasn’t necessary for the particular point I was making. I thought I made it plain enough that he lacked the “good understanding of the Constitution” to which he referred.

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