Conversation with a ‘Conservative’ – Part 2 – “I am amazed at just how many so called “Educated” People think a National Gun ban is going to stop gun crime”.
A couple of thoughts for ‘Don’.
1. Who is calling for a ‘National Gun ban’?
2. How many people can 1 person (unarmed) kill vs. 1 person armed kill?
3. When 40% of guns are purchased via gun shows where no background checks are mandated, how is that a ‘strict law’?
4. Show me where EVERY gun owner is trained just like you are.
5. Show me were President Obama has asked for legislation banning all guns.
‘Don’ is not as ignorant as Jimbob was but still is like wathcing FOX ‘news’.
Takes a fact and skews it.
Skew it back at ’em.
Show me where your ‘fact’ is an actual fact.
Oh and ‘Don’, I didn’t approve your comments as you spamed me.
5 different comments all along the same vein.
firstname.lastname@example.org wrote : “I am amazed at just how many so called “Educated” People think a National Gun ban is going to stop gun crime”.
Me – Don, here’s the problem.
You need to educate yourself.
Aside from yourself and others on the extreme right, no one serious is talking about a ‘National Gun ban’.
What IS being talked about are banning/restricting certain weapons. Military style assault weapons. Clips carring more then 10 rounds.
We have great police forces to protect our communities and a great military to protect our Nation.
We are not in armed conflict with anyone within our Nation again except for those on the extreme right who think the Government is trying to ‘take my guns’.
Much like you seem to think with your ‘National Gun ban’.
Will it stop crime? No. We don’t live in a perfect World. But it will begin to lessen the chances of more Sandy Hooks.
email@example.com wrote : ” The true issue is the person with a gun, not the gun its self”.
Me – Really.
OK. Take the gun out of the person’s hand.
How many people can he kill until he (generic) is stopped?
Now put a 6 shot revolver in that person’s hand.
How many people can he kill until he’s stopped?
Now put a AR15 w/a 30 round clip in that person’s hand.
How many people can he kill before he’s stopped?
So Don, without a gun, maybe 1 person is killed. With a revolver, maybe 6 are killed. With the AR15, maybe 30 are killed.
Seeing a trend here Donny boy?
It IS the gun.
firstname.lastname@example.org wrote : “Strict Laws are on the books now, enforce what is there and make stiff mandatory sentencing, capital punishment, and allow people to have the guns they need to protect themselves”.
Me – Don where are the ‘strict laws’ at gun shows? Private sales?
You might be a responsible person but we need background checks on EVERYONE – with ALL gun sales.
You yourself say in a later post that ‘criminals won’t follow the law’ so making the punishment more severe isn’t the answer.
Getting/keeping guns out of the hands (as mush as possible) for those who shouldn’t have guns is the reason.
It’s not a perfect World but it’s a start to making us all safer.
And background checks/militaty assault bans and high capicity clips does not in any way stop good, law abiding citizens from owning the weapons needed for their protection.
Again we have great police forces.
email@example.com wrote : ” It is not the way a gun looks or how many rounds it can hold, that makes it lethal. I was trained to strict, exact standards of engagement. 1 well placed shot,1 kill! I can engage at ranges from a few feet to several hundred yards with the same results”.
Me – As to the how a gun looks or how many rounds it can hold does not make it lethal see above. Yes it does.
Now tell me Don how many gun owners are trained as you?
1 out of 1000?
1 out of 10,000?
1 out of 100,000?
The vast majority of gun owners go to a target range and think they are ‘Rambos’.
Firing at a static target that doesn’t fire back.
firstname.lastname@example.org wrote : ” Allow the law abiding People to keep and bare arms, this is a right as old as the Nation its self”.
Me – Nobody serious is stopping ‘law abiding people to keep and bare arms’.
How does making background checks for all gun sales stop ‘law abiding people?
How does banning military assault weapons stop ‘law abiding people’?
How does banning high capicity clips stop ‘law abiding people’?